We say, ‘I am John.’
We also say, ‘My name is John.’
So indirectly, we say that we are this body.
But we never say, ‘I am this body.’
We say, ‘This is my body.’
We also say, ‘This is my arm, my leg, my eyes, my ears etc…’
Then who is ‘I’ and who is ‘my’?
Have you ever Googled it?
Before you search anymore, read this conversation between Param Pujya Dadashri and a German couple Susan and Lloyd:
Param Pujya Dadashri asked them, “Would you like to be immersed in ‘I’ or ‘My’? There are ponds of this ‘I’ and ‘My’. Those who have been immersed in the pond of ‘I’ have never died, while those who are immersed in the pond of ‘My’ have never lived.” So they said, “We want it to be such, that we will never have to die again.” So I explained, “There is no worry in ‘I’. Don’t worry for ‘My’. ‘I’ is immortal, ‘My’ is mortal.” Therefore, separate ‘I’ and ‘My’! Within just half an hour they understood this and they were delighted.”
This will have confused you more, right? Okay, so let us simplify it a bit by looking at Param Pujya Dadashri’s live conversation with a spiritual seeker.
Dadashri: What is your name?
Questioner: My name is 'John'.
Dadashri: Are you really 'John'?
Dadashri: 'John' is your name. Is 'John' not your name? Are you yourself 'John' or is your name 'John'?
Questioner: It is my name.
Dadashri: Then who are you? If 'John' is your name, then who are you? Are you and your name not separate? If you are separate from your name, then who are you? Do you understand what I am trying to say? If you say, "These are my eye-glasses," then you and the glasses are separate, right? Similarly, do you not feel that you are separate from your name? In the same token there is nothing wrong with naming a shop 'General Traders'. However if we call out to the shop owner "Hey General Traders, come here!" he would reply, "My name is Jayantilal, General Traders is the name of my shop." The owner, the shop, and the merchandise inside the shop, are all separate entities. What do you think?
Questioner: That makes sense.
Dadashri: People insist, "No, I am 'John'." That means, "I am the owner of the shop and I am also the sign on the shop." 'John' is just a means of identification. From your very childhood, people kept calling you 'John' and you have come to believe, "I am John." You believe this name to be you. In reality you are not that, but you insist that you are 'John' because everyone tells you so. Since you do not know who you really are, you believe yourself to be the name that you have been given. This has had a very powerful psychological effect on you. This effect is so deeply ingrained within you, that you believe that you are 'John'. This belief is wrong, and because of this wrong belief, you have spent countless lives 'sleeping with your eyes open' (oblivious to your real identity).
*John = Whenever Dadashri uses the name 'John' or the name of the person Dadashri is addressing, the reader should insert his or her name for exact understanding.
At the moment, do you identify with the ‘My’? Is the ‘I’ alone, or is it with ‘My’?
Questioner: ‘My’ is always there.
Dadashri: What are all the things that fall under ‘My’?
Questioner: My home and all the things inside my home.
Dadashri: Are all of those things yours? To whom does the wife belong?
Questioner: She is also mine.
Dadashri: And these children?
Questioner: They are also mine.
Dadashri: And this watch?
Questioner: That is also mine.
Dadashri: And these hands, whose hands are these?
Questioner: They are also mine.
Dadashri: Then you will say “My head, my body, my feet, my ears, my eyes.” All these parts of your body fall under ‘My’. But then who is the person that is saying this word “My”? Who is the one that says, “All these things are mine?” Have you ever thought about that? When you say “My name is John,” and then you turn around and say, “I am John” do you not think there is a contradiction in this?
Questioner: Yes, I think so.
Dadashri: You are ‘John’ right now. In this ‘John’ there is both ‘I’ and ‘My’. They are like the two railway lines of ‘I’ and ‘My’; they always run together yet they are always separate. They are always parallel and never become one. Despite this you believe them to be one. This is due to the ignorance or unawareness of your true identity. Having understood this, separate the ‘My’. Keep all that comes under ‘My’ to one side. For example, “My heart,” keep your heart on one side. What other things do we need to separate from this body?
Questioner: The feet and all the sense organs.
Dadashri: Yes the five gnanendriyas (organs of perception) and five karmendriyas (organs of action) and everything else. Furthermore do you say, “My mind,” or “I am mind”?
Questioner: We say, “My mind.”
Dadashri: Do you also not say, “My intelligence.”?
Dadashri: And “My chit (the component of inner vision and previous knowledge in the mind)”?
Dadashri: Then do you say, “My egoism,” or do you say, “I am egoism”?
Questioner: My egoism.
Dadashri: So even egoism is not a part of you. By saying “My egoism,” you will be able to separate that too, but you are not aware of other components that fall under ‘my’ and that is why you are not able to make a complete separation. Your awareness has limitations. You are aware of only the sthool (gross) components, beyond which there are sookshma (subtle) components. The subtle components also need to be separated, after which there are two more levels of subtlety, sookshmatar (subtler) and sookshmatum (subtlest), which also need to be taken away. Only a Gnani Purush (Self-Realized one) is able to achieve a separation at these intangible levels. Is it not possible to separate the two? If you keep on deducting ‘My’ from ‘I’, at every step and at every level, and put all the things that fall under ‘My’ on one side, then what will remain?
Questioner: The ‘I’.
Dadashri: That ‘I’, is precisely what you are. And that is the ‘I’ that you need to realize.
Questioner: After such a separation am I to understand that whatever is left over is who I really am? Is that the Real I?
Dadashri: Yes, whatever remains after the separation, is your Real Self. ‘I’ is the Real You [the Pure Soul].
“I” is God (the Self) and “my” is illusory attachment (maya). “My” is relative to “I.” “I” is real. Without the Gnani Purush (One who has fully realized the Self and is able to impart the Knowledge of the Self to others), you will never be able to know the original Self; however, “I” and “my” are completely separate. If everyone, understood just this much, most of their problems would lessen considerably. This is a science. This is a fundamentally unique spiritual research of Akram Vignan. “I” and “my” are absolutely separate. “I” is the natural state of the Self, whereas “my” is a sense of ownership.
For example, this gold ring contains a mixture of copper and gold. Who do you think will be able to separate the gold from the copper?
Questioner: Only a goldsmith.
Dadashri: Yes, a goldsmith can separate the gold and the copper because he knows the qualities of both of these elements. Similarly, a Gnani Purush (Self-Realized one) knows the qualities of the Self and the non-Self and so he can separate the two.
The gold and copper in this ring are in the form of a mixture rather than a compound. The goldsmith, therefore, can easily separate the mixture. Similarly, the Self and the non-Self are in a mixture form and not in a compound form, which is why it is possible to extract one from the other. If they were in a compound form, it would not be possible to separate the two. That is why the Gnani Purush (Self-Realized one) is able to separate the two, and one is able to understand the Self.
1) If you can cope with this worldly life, then there is no need to understand anything further. And if you find worldly life to be troublesome, then you need to understand spirituality. In spirituality, the Self has to be realized. Upon Knowing 'who am I', all the puzzles get solved.
2) Every single religion is indeed correct, but the religion in which one examines ‘who am I?’ and ‘who is the doer?’ is on the ultimate path of religion. And Knowing this ‘who’ is the ultimate religion!
1) The Self and the non-Self are in a mixture form and not in a compound form, which is why it is possible to extract one from the other. If they were in a compound form, it would not be possible to separate the two. That is why the Gnani Purush is able to separate the two, and one is able to understand the Self.
2) The Absolute 'I' within you is God. Beyond this there is no other God or superior above you. There is no almighty power to rule over you. You are completely independent. There is no one that can hurt you or hinder you. The only thing that can hurt or hinder you, are your own mistakes.
3) Karma can only be created if there is 'doership.' As 'John', when you say and believe, "I did this," or "I did that…" you become the 'doer.' This belief then becomes a support for karma. When one stops being the 'doer,' the karma has no basis or support, so it falls away.