
The whole worldly life is of the non-Self complex (pudgal). But to have attachment-abhorrence in that non-Self complex, is called karmic bondage, and not to have attachment-abhorrence in that non-Self complex, is called liberation.
Param Pujya Dada BhagwanExact worldly interaction is a relative thing. So, to interact as a householder is considered exact worldly interaction. To interact as a saint is considered exact worldly interaction. However, the worldly interaction that pertains to the Self and the absolute Self, that is pure worldly interaction (shuddha vyavahaar). Despite that worldly interaction taking place, there is no bondage!
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