Questioner : What is the proof of self realization? I would like to know.

Niruma : What is your name?

Questioner : My name is Bakulbhai.

Niruma : At present, what are you? You would say Bakulbhai. Thats why it stays with you, because it is constantly in your conscientiousness that you are Bakul. Does it ever go from your mind? It remains doesn't it! Whilst your standing, sitting, eating, drinking, even in your sleep, or someone is insulting Bakul. Even when Bakul's name is heard, you automatically stand up, that is how much it has been automated into you! When you experience your 'Soul', you will become automated in the same way, with the realization that I am 'Soul' and not Bakul. This realization will remain with you, whether you are standing, sitting, eating, drinking or whatever you are doing; it remains in your awareness. It is in your awareness. Your 'Soul' becomes aware and you become that form. It reminds you that you are Pure Soul.

Questioner : What is 'Soul'? How many 'Soul's' are there?

Niruma : There are infinite 'Soul's', however many life forms there are, within them all are 'Soul'. It is eternal and infinite. It is a unique element; it is pure.

Questioner : It does not born?

Niruma : It is an eternal element; it is eternal, it is endless. It is endless that is why it does not have a beginning nor will it have an end. That is the meaning of an endless element. All of these scientists have been in search for these eternal elements. They have yet to reach the 'Soul'; however, we Avatars (Gnanis) have managed to find a pathway. Do you understand? There is such an eternal element within you, and you are that however you have not fully realized it. You are not Bakul, your name is Bakul - a name been given to distinguish this body, like all these shops have a sign on the front of them, like Akbar Ali's, Shankutal's and Dharamshi's, just like them Bakul is a 'sign' for recognizing this body. What happens to us now in our beliefs? What happens to the belief that 'I am Bakul'? You now become the owner of the 'shop' known as Bakul. Yet you become the 'sign' instead of the owner in your beliefs, when will you realize this? If someone was to say Bakul is this, Bakul is that, Bakul is useless. Then inside you would be hurt would you not? Yes, it causes internal pain; they are saying this about me! I am not like this. This is where you have become the 'sign' and not the owner. There if you remember the knowledge of who is being insulted? That this is being said to the 'sign' and not to me! Then nothing would affect you and actually, they only know the 'sign', they do not know you. You are 'Pure Soul' form. You still do not realize your 'Soul'. When you realize your 'Soul', it will remain in your awareness for the rest of your life. It will remain automatically that this is a sign' and you are different.

Questioner : If I come tomorrow, will it be done?

Niruma : Yes, that is the 'sign' and you are this form that if you want to realize, then do you have the knowledge for this method? Dada unlocked this knowledge in 1958, whilst sitting at Surat Railway Station; this knowledge came to him naturally. The rest of his quest was very intense. From the age of 22, he quested for this knowledge. He was 50 when he unlocked this knowledge. He did a lot of very deep reflection. He did not have much achievement, whomever he met, he followed their instructions to try to gain this knowledge, but it happened in 1958. When it happened, it was automatic and natural, and his body and 'Soul' were separated in his understanding. The understanding of the whole universe's reality was dawned upon him. I got this 'Gnan' (Knowledge of Soul) in 1968 whilst in my final year of medical school. I was very young at the time; I was about 22 or 23 years old. Before this, my background was that I found religion was complete nonsense and wondered what all the running around was all about it was as if there was no meaning to it. That is why I had no interest in religion. I did not sing devotional songs, repeat Gods name, do sacred rituals, read the sacred texts or go to the temple, however when I heard about this I got an immediate feeling for it. My brother told me of this Avatar (Gnani), who gave 'Gnan' in two hours. In one hour, he would give 'Gnan' and in the second, he would give the understanding of the 'Gnan'. After which you would experience that your body and soul were separated, after which life's pleasures and pains would not touch you. You would feel detached. It was the first time I had even heard of the word 'Soul'. I did not even know what 'Soul' was. Thereby where was the question of being separated? But the first thing my mind picked up was that if there was 'Gnan' (Knowledge) or something that would make worldly pleasure and pain not able to touch me and make me feel detached, then was their anything else in the world worth striving for than this? This was something different to me. They were saying this 'Gnan' was possible in two hours; therefore, I said to myself this was something I wanted to gain. That set in my mind, and everything else was minor. This became my topmost priority, my medical studying would be done afterwards; this was first. I tried three times to meet him. He was in Baroda, I was all alone in Aurangabad, and my father was there. I finally met him and got 'Gnan' from him. Since receiving 'Gnan', that awareness that, I am a 'Pure Soul', hasn't left me for even one second, 'I am not this', but I'm this (Pure Soul). I have experienced it as well; Pleasure and pain did not touch me. Six months later, my father expired and there was no reaction by me; inside I was experiencing happiness, the first thought that came to me was that he had changed his worn out coat for a new coat; 'Soul' is 'Pure Soul', 'Supreme Soul', it doesn't die it just moves on. What is wrong with that? As age increases, the end of your coat (body) draws closer and eventually you will have to change into a new coat (body). We selfishly think that we will keep our old coat (body), what is wrong with getting a new coat (body)? He was going to get a higher spiritual body because he also had 'Dada's Gnan'. In his last moments, he remained in his 'Soul' whilst he left his body. At the time, in the presence of all the family members. Before he went, He prayed to everyone's 'Pure Soul' and asked for forgiveness from everyone. He left his body, saying 'I am pure soul, I am pure soul' for five minutes. Oppositely, this was his lower life form. Even then, due to our selfishness, we wanted him to live a bit longer.

Just like when mother's stop there children from going to America, to become highly experienced computer engineers, or a big doctor, mothers' will say No; I don't like it; you can't go otherwise I won't be able to live; I won't send you. ' This is selfishness, is it not? We put ourselves before his career; we hold onto him and ruin his opportunities! That is what happens now; we worry and we cry about people who have died. This is all due to our selfishness that we cry. Nobody cries for them; does anyone cry for them? Everyone cries for themselves. I have seen it myself; I have experienced it myself. When someone's husband dies, the wife will cry hysterically. I ask them 'Hey! What reason are you crying for? They say there crying thinking ? what'll happen to me?' you should cry thinking 'what'll happen to him now?' Do they ever cry with that intention? Wives cry whilst thinking 'my husband only liked my Daal, who's going to feed him now?' They cry thinking this, or saying 'His Will hasn't been written properly in my name; what will happen to me? ' Hey! Spare a thought for the person who has died. If something good is happening for him, then surely it is good. It will happen to everyone at some point. This knowledge remained at this time; there was no reaction, only happiness. Each one of my medical degrees came one after the other and I felt just that happiness. Inside there was happiness, yet outside there was no reaction. This 'Gnan' does exactly what it says it does; it is effective knowledge, it is self-operating; this 'Atma Gnan' is something. As I kept experiencing this, I understood its worth' and there was happiness, happiness ? infinite happiness! I felt everyone should receive this 'Knowledge' I had not done anything for this. I just sat in his presence with intense focus. With intense focus! People cannot even sit for two hours with intense focus, after that the intellect ignites, it says 'I'm Soul' and they are saying 'I am pure soul', why are they saying this. Why aren't they saying this? If they are saying, this then the intellect fights against it. Hey, Fool! Understand what you are saying; Register it. When being fed, eat, and then as. You are talking about digesting before you have even eaten that is why there isn't intense focus. Then how many people go to sleep? It gets so peaceful that they fall asleep. Then they need waking up. When awoken they keep trying to wake up, Hey! Wake up, after so long you have this chance, do not go back to sleep, that is keep a fully resolute focus. What else do you need to do? Do this much, follow the instructions and afterwards see the results. It was my experience, that I 'It felt to me' this is my experience This is no religious cult or religious sect. We do not make us your 'Guru' (religious teacher), we do not ask you to become our students, we do not make you change your religion, or we do not make you change your ?Guru' (religious teacher), we do not make you do anything like that. We got this Gnan from him, from Dada, the Gnan (Knowledge) he experienced. This experience, we share with you. For those who have benefited from this 'share', fill out an 'issue', your work is done 'work'. You do not have to do anything. Yes Sir.

Questioner : What needs to be done to get 'Spirituality'; I want to obtain 'Spirituality'. What needs to be done to get 'Spirituality'? What needs to be done to get 'Spirituality'?

Niruma : To obtain 'Spirituality', a Spiritual Avatar (Gnani) needs to be found, someone who has realized their 'Soul'. If you find one of these Avatars (Gnanis) it is very easy, nothing we. what was said just now? That is what we found. We had to do nothing; he does it. He died in 1988, but this was his wish, his blessings, his strength and power. After that, we give it the same way he did. If you get this chance, you must find this link.