Before you received this self realization, you were acting as body as your true self and after attaining this you becamepure Soul (Shuddhatma). Is there any difference in your experience?
Questioner: Yes
Dadashri: Do you experience this from the moment you get up in the morning or in the afternoon?
Questioner: This experience is different from any prior experience. It is spontaneously present when I wake up.
Dadashri: When you wake up in the middle of the night, what is the first thing you remember?
Questioner: I am a pure soul (Shuddhatma).
Dadashri: Yes, when you spontaneously remember that you are a pure soul, upon waking up in the middle of the night, it is proof that you have realized the Soul. Now you have to follow the agnas of the Gnani Purush (Self Enlightened being). These agnas are paramount.
After I give you this true and permanent self realization, the reality takes hold in you. Then you become Self-Realized. You realize that you are Pure soul. I destroy your sins. I give you the Divine Vision (Divyachakshu) whereby you are able to see pure soul in everybody. After giving you the right belief and unifying you with your Soul, I give you the five agnas (cardinal principles). These five agnas will guide and protect you.
Experiencing The Self Permanently
Dadashri: How long do you remain in this awareness of, “I am pure soul ”?
Questioner: When I am sitting alone quietly in a solitary place.
Dadashri: Yes. After this what is your feeling? Do you at anytime feel that “I am Chandubhai (name of the person)?” Do you ever really feel that, “I am Chandubhai?”
Questioner: It has not happened after taking self realization.
Dadashri: Then you are Pure Soul (Shuddhatma) only. You have achieved the true self realization. One can only have one feeling. In their daily lives, some people even forget their own names. There is no problem with that. Your state of pure soul will remain for sure.
Questioner: But, in the daily life many times the awareness of pure soul ( Shuddhatma) does not stay.
Dadashri: Then, is it replaced by the awareness of, “I am Chandubhai”? Say that for three hours you are not aware that you are pure soul Shuddhatma and I was to ask you, “Are you ‘Chandubhai’ or ‘Shuddhatma’?” What will you answer?
Questioner: pure soul (Shuddhatma).
Dadashri: It means that the awareness is there all the time. Suppose a man got drunk and lost his awareness during that time. What happens when the effect of the alcohol goes away?
If I ask you, “Are you really ‘Chandubhai’ or are you ‘pure soul ’?” You reply, “pure soul .” I ask you again the next day and you reply, “Shuddhatma,” again. If I continue to ask you the same question for five days and get the same answer, I know you have attained the Soul. I have the key to your liberation, so that even if you complain or protest, I would not listen.
Knowledge Through Scriptures Knowledge Through Experience
The true self realization that you have acquired encompasses the essence of all our scriptures. Whatever is said in the scriptures is correct. However, Akram Vignan is all that is above and beyond the scriptures. In the scriptures they describe the Soul, but all of its qualities and characteristics are not included. You are only able to acquire the Soul because I give you its complete description. In the Akram path, the awareness is spontaneous and natural. It is there even when you wake up in the middle of the night. Things you have to make an effort to remember fall under the category of the body matter. You do not have to remember the Soul. Once your Real nature as the Soul has been realized, you do not have to make any efforts to remember it.
