Pujya Niruma: Do you get worried any day? 

Questioner: yes, I get worried; I have no job now so all those worries are there.

Pujya Niruma: What medicine do you apply then? 

Questioner: try hard for a job. 

Pujya Niruma: Hmm!

Questioner: for a job, for business, I try hard. 

Pujya Niruma: Try hard.

Questioner: What else can be done? 

Pujya Niruma: That is required but you need not worry.   Look for a job but don’t worry.   Does anything change by worrying? 

Questioner: No.

Pujya Niruma: Worry means, we prepare ourselves to be born as an animal in your next life.   You don’t know this, but once you’ve big worries, you reserve a place in the animal life.   Presently you have such a nice human birth, two legs, two hands, a brain and then what will happen do you know? Animal… then instead of two legs you get four legs and one tail in addition, so keep jumping around.   Is this good work we’re doing, with worries? 

Questioner: No.

Pujya Niruma: We don’t know this, but we are losing human form.   Therefore, tell the one who you worship, I don’t want to worry whichever god you believe in, if you believe in Lord Krishna then tell Lord Krishna that Lord Krishna! You have said that ‘man shouldn’t worry, Lord Krishna will do what he has to do’ so I don’t want to worry, but it happens, therefore does something so that I don’t worry, with a true heart.  I don’t want to worry, but does it?   If we have the blessings of the one in whom we believe in then why do we need to worry?   Therefore the one who doesn’t have anybody to protect him, worries. Do these animals have worries? 

Questioner:  No.

Pujya Niruma: Do these donkeys, dogs and cats have worries? 

Questioner:  no

Pujya Niruma: what shall we eat today?   Do they think like this? 

Questioner:  No.

Pujya Niruma: Nothing, only humans worry.   Therefore, they’ve surrendered to god these humans have surrendered to god.  They’ve no faith that they’ll get there, so they worry because of that.   We shouldn’t worry.   Worry is the biggest form of ego, it’s open ego, as if we can change everything, we worry thinking that everything is in our hands.   It isn’t that one does worry there’s nothing that can be done.  Do you understand?   There is a saying that “Worry is like a coffin, it knows everything, but doesn’t have a solution nor does it seek a route”.   Who likes to worry? Nobody likes to worry.   Simply if a child fails in tenth standard, they start worrying, what shall I do now.  Fool, if you’ve failed once, and then in six months time you’ll pass, pass at the second attempt.   If anything improves by worrying, then it is fine, therefore make an effort.  Do as much as you can but don’t worry.  However, you shouldn’t worry.  Do you understand? 

Questioner: Yes.

Pujya Niruma: If you get worried, remember dada bhagwan and say, “dada bhagwan, I don’t want to worry, yet it still happens so I transfer it to you.   Go to dada.   Then it’ll not happen.   Who doesn’t get worried out of you, raise your hand, let me see; let me see how many don’t worried?   Oh!  They don’t worry there are people who don’t get worried. Look, so if you don’t want worries then take the path that frees you from worry, your brother-in-law also doesn’t worry, didn’t you see, he raised his hand? 

Questioner:  He doesn’t worry, but … 

Pujya Niruma: Do you feel he doesn’t get worried? 

Questioner: Yes, I feel that.

Pujya Niruma: Then what more does one want?  Not having worries should happen.  Haven’t you asked him?  Why doesn’t he worry, have you asked your brother-in-law? 

Questioner: I asked him, he told me.

Pujya Niruma: What did he tell you? 

Questioner: He told me, why do we need to worry.   We will get whatever is due to us.   He told me so. 

Pujya Niruma: Yes I know that one should not worry. But what should you do if it happens. Didn’t you ask him how his stopped?

Questioner: No, I didn’t ask that.

Pujya Niruma: Then ask.

Questioner: Everything needs to be understood as correct, “scientific circumstantial evidences (vyvasthit)”. 

Pujya Niruma: what do you say? 

Questioner: that it’s to be understood as correct, scientific circumstantial evidences (vyvasthit). 

Pujya Niruma: Yes, who does all this? How does it run? Who operates it? You need to know this.  You need to know ‘who you are?’  It is important, who does all this, who operates all this?   We believe that we are doing all this, if I am not around everything will stop.   That’s why we worry?  If we run the show and we do everything then won’t everyone start flying in the air?  They’d go around thinking they were the kings of the world?   They’re only a king in their home, there the wife, doesn’t listen to him.  She’s creating a rebellion.  Therefore, this is just a belief that I do this.  If you really, were the doer, nobody would be unhappy! Everybody will be happy, happy and happy.   You are stuck with beliefs of all kinds.   If anything good happens, they say ‘I did it’, if they earn a million then they say ‘I earned it with my ability I earned it with my hard work’. The feeling remains with him even if nobody asks him that I earned it. It happens so?   Does he not make a loss? 

Questioner: It goes.

Pujya Niruma: When we lose, do we go around telling everyone that it was because of my foolishness? 

Questioner: No we don’t tell.

Pujya Niruma: There he changes, there he blames others, such as my manager cheated me, or my partner cheated me.   When he earns it is, I earned it and when he loses he blames others.   All these are wrong beliefs; look the doer has changed.   First he becomes the doer and then he blames others if a loss is made.  And, if he has nobody to blame he says my stars were obstructing me or that they weren’t in my favor.   When do the stars have time to obstruct you, they are all busy enjoying with all their starlets.  Like us, they to need enjoyment don’t they.   This is all wrong belief.  The stars aren’t free to come down to hinder you, and once you start thinking like this, you begin to take help of astrologer then he takes away the few thousands you are left with.   Nothing happens. We don’t get anything.   Have you ever been to an astrologer ever? 

Questioner: I went yesterday.

Pujya Niruma: Look, you got caught today. 

Questioner: My brother-in-law had accompanied me. 

Questioner: My brother-in-law accompanied me and they all went with me, my sister, my brother-in-law … 

Questioner: Ah! That was because everybody asked me to, I went first out of curiosity, and I have no interest. 

Pujya Niruma: Then what? 

Questioner: He didn’t take any money but he gave a locket. 

Pujya Niruma: He made a locket. 

Questioner: Yes, he told me that wherever you go for employment, this locket would influence that. 

Pujya Niruma: Then won’t your boss scold you? 

Questioner: For employment? 

Pujya Niruma: Will you find employment? 

Questioner: Yes, so.

Pujya Niruma: By wearing the locket.

Questioner: Yes, by wearing the locket. 

Pujya Niruma: Then in our country, there are so many unemployed, get as many lockets made for them, everybody will get work. 
 
Questioner: I talked about business also but he said if you do business you will incur losses, that’s why my brother-in-law and sister told me, that you are the one to make a loss so don’t do business, so I stopped thinking of having a business.   And he asked me find employment somehow. 

Pujya Niruma: All of this is like falling of a tree with the weight of a crow.   If tomorrow, you really get some employment, he would be really rich.   These astrologers don’t know anything.   They give you something in paper and call it a locket.   If this can change our ‘karmas’, then all these, the gita, the upanishads, the vedas and the aagamas, why are they required? Where’s the need to worship god?   These astrologers, won’t they solve all our problems/sorrows?  Won’t they make all our pains go away? What’s the need to remember god?   Do you understand? 

Questioner: Yes.

Pujya Niruma: Nobody can change our karmas.All these are wrong beliefs. Only in this age has this all has started recently, it wasn’t like this, before.When paradhi’s arrow shot Lord Krishna, still how many people had he congregated? To stop the war of mahabharat how many astrologer were called. Even if the astrologers brought down all the stars.But Lord Krishna couldn’t do anything.Then what chance has anyone else?

Questioner:It’s like this, he’s a doctor. 

Pujya Niruma: Who? 

Questioner: The astrologer is a doctor; the ghost of baba peer enters into him. 

Pujya Niruma: What enters. 

Questioner: Baba peer.  That is, it was a curious thing for me that I saw, so I questioned him. In reply he said four hundred years ago, there was a baba peer near the baruch district,  and he himself is a doctor and the saints soul comes over him, then I asked him, we want to visit you, we are worried, please help us.   He said he’d given us the locket and said our work would be done.   So I thought, “let us see what ‘scientific circumstantial evidences (vyvasthit)’ (scientific circumstantial evidences) does for us.  He said keep faith ‘sister’. I thought, he’s a doctor and in the doctor, the ghost of a Muslim saint visits him in this way.  

Pujya Niruma: If we want to get liberation, then we needn’t get into all of this. If we want to tread the right path of equality then all these paths are of no use.   Otherwise, the one who has not found this right path, for them all of this right. These consolations are right,  as for everything else, no one can change anybody’s karmas,  it’s all talk,  and do you understand?  Therefore straighten yourself out and put in the effort, remember god.  God isn’t going back and forth with you as it is within you.    This tool of imagination is easy, that god is here, there, and all this is imagination.It’s truly residing within.  Whosoever has searched within has found god and those who have searched outside have died searching.  Saint kabir set out in search of god, then somebody told him to go to kashi vishwanath. You’ll find him there.Poor he, he went there walking, he used to live in Delhi.   At that time there weren’t many vehicles, he reached there and searched, whilst sitting in front of an idol of god.   But he didn’t find god.   Then when he came out in search again, then everybody told him to go to rameshwar, you’ll find him there.  So he went walking all the way to rameshwar.   He didn’t find him there. Then again, somebody told him that you’d find it in jaganathpuri.   There also it was the same. He went to dwarika, but didn’t find anything.   Then he found a teacher, ramanand swami. He told him “I want god, I went around everywhere, I am tired he said.   Then this teacher gave him the understanding of where god was.   He introduced him to god. When he learnt that he said immediately “I thought god was faraway somewhere but he’s within my heart. Because of my own deceits, I was unable to see him. He’s within,  not at all faraway.   This cover is because of our own faults.   Deceit is what? I’m Raju that is the first deceit.   Raju is the name given to recognize this body.   But we believe that I am Raju and that’s deceit.   In worldly language, it’s all right but in spiritual language it’s deceit, that’s why god isn’t seen.   It is within you and once you recognize him, you realize oh! Him and I are not two but one.  Ultimately it will come and stand up.   Do you understand?   Therefore, the real one is within you.   Remember the one within.   And this one within doesn’t interfere in anything, doesn’t harm or do good to anyone.   The one within just gives his light of knowledge to everybody, everyone uses it according to one’s commonsense and ego, that’s there own responsibility.   God has nothing to do with that.   Within you, your soul, that is the god, there isn’t any other however many people who found god, found him were within their ‘soul’ form.   Everything else is just imagination.    We come to bring you out of all these wrong beliefs and imaginations.   We may’ve heard or read then someone says this and that.   It’s all confounding and entangling complications, full of complications, because after doing all this, there’s no change.   Not even one worry is gone,  nor has your anger, pride, ego or greed reduced.   But this just cools everything down,  and gives peace.   Whether you’ve a job or not but internal peace doesn’t go.  There aren’t any worries.  Do you understand?   Ask if you want to, you’ve full freedom to ask anything, here.