Questioner: How did Meera and Narsinh have direct darshan (sakshaatkar) of Lord Krishna?
Dadashri:  What Meera and Narsinh saw was not Krishna. The ‘seer’ that saw, is Krishna. The one who says, “I can see Krishna within,” is the object to be seen (drashya) and the seer (drashta) is the real Krishna.  The true darshan of ‘this Krishna’ can only be done through the grace of the Avatar (Self Enlightened Being). At the time of Meera and Narsinh there was no Gnani Purush around and therefore you cannot consider their experience as true darshan of Lord Krishna. Devotees like Narsinh, Meera, Kabir, Akha, Gnandeva, and Tookaram are still around. None of them have attained liberation. However, now they have taken the knowledge of the Self from me.

 As long as you are a devotee, you are separate from God (the Lord within). The work is complete when the devotee becomes one with God. No one has really understood Lord Krishna at all. Some have labeled Him ‘the one with a flute’.  Some called him ‘the one with the gopi's’, etc. Alio, the street vendor sells pictures depicting Lord Krishna; people buy these pictures and worship them.  This is nothing but a business! Lord Krishna cannot be like that. He is not what you imagine Him to be.  Everyone worships the baby Krishna; they put his small idol or picture on a little baby cradle and swing him back and forth.  No one worships the Yogeshwar Krishna who had become established in Gnan; knowledge of the Self. Krishna says, “People are wrong. They fast every year on my birthday and the next day they indulge in rich fatty foods. These are my own devotees and yet they contradict me. They make me out to be the one carrying a flute and  call me deceitful.  They say I used to frolic with the gopi's (the cowgirls).  They have maligned me so much.”

When a person worships and devotes himself to the idol (murta) he remains the idol, the formed non-self complex. When he a person worships and devotes himself to the formless (amurta) he attains the formless Self and become liberated. To constantly remain as the Self, is charitra (atmacharitra; real conduct). This state of absolute purity (shuddha dasha) is oneness with all (abhedata). In this state, one sees the Self in all (atma vat sarva bhuteshu).  That is absolute purity abounding everywhere. The Gnan (Self knowledge), darshan (vision as the Self), charitra (staying as the Self) and the bliss is the real Light (jyoti), not this physical lamp (divo).  The One who is the Knower and the Seer i.e. gnata-drashta is Krishna; not the object that is seen.